POC Conf. Call 8-23-11
POC meeting, Webex Conference Call; Date: Tuesday Aug 23rd, 2011 10am (PDT)
In attendance:
POC members:
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Collaborators: none
Acceptance of the minutes from the POC_Conf._Call_8-2-11?
Conference report
- Plant Biology 2011, Aug 6-10th, Minneapolis, Minn
Gramene and Plant Ontology are hosting a Data Curation Workshop again, focusing on pathway curations.
LC and PJ will present a PO poster.
TAIR (Kate Dreher) is organizing an Plant_Biology_2011_Outreach_Booth and we are invited to take part. We are hosting the website.
Update on addition of new MaizeGDB Annotations
- This was discussed on the last conference call: [POC Conf. Call 8-2-11]
- We had a webex meeting with Mary Schaeffer on Aug. 11th, see: Submission of Association files for the Kaeppler gene expression data from MaizeGDB- Aug 2011
- Mary sent us a "test" file of 25,000 lines- report from JE about loading the file re: Issues?
4015 annotations in beta browser
[incorrect notation in the "assigned by" column]
- Update on getting rid of the "sensu" terms, see: Eliminating Zea/Poaceae terms from PO and the discussion from 8-2-11 meeting.
Syncing PO and CL
CL plans to obsolete most of its plant cell types, and add xrefs to those for PO terms.
CL will provide bridge files as part of the CL release process.
Problematic xrefs to CL terms from PO
PO has xrefs to 46 CL terms.
- Most are accurate and reference CL plant cell types. Suggest that we delete these xrefs, because CL is going to obsolete those terms.
- Nine of the xrefs are not under CL's category for plant cells, and require special attention:
plant cell
PO:0009002 (plant cell) xref to CL:0000610 (plant cell).
CL defines plant cell as "A cell found in seeded plants." This is outdated.
Suggest that CL adopt PO's definition of plant cell. We should keep this xref. See below on treating xrefs as equivalent terms.
zygote
PO:0000423 (zygote) xref to CL:0000365 (zygote).
CL:0000365 is_a cell by lineage, is_a early embryonic cell. This is probably fine.
We should keep this xref. See below on treating xrefs as equivalent terms.
epidermal cells
- PO:0004013 (epidermal cell) xref to CL:0000362 (epidermal cell)
CL:0000362 is_a squamose epithelial cell, is_a general ecto-epithelial cell
At an earlier meeting and via email exchanges, we decided that the CL definition of epidermal cell is not appropriate for plants.
PO:0004013 should be renamed plant epidermal cell (?). Remove xref to CL terms. PO:0004013 will be imported into CL with other plant cell types.
- PO:0000332 (epidermal pavement cell) xref to CL:0000400 (pavement cell)
CL:0000400 is_a epidermal cell. CL should obsolete this term, and PO should remove xref. PO:0000332 will be imported into CL with other plant cell types.
- PO:0000115 (socket cell) xref to CL:0000297 (socket cell)
CL:0000297 is_a epidermal cell, is_a supportive cell. CL should obsolete this term, and PO should remove xref. PO:0000115 will be imported into CL with other plant cell types.
- PO:0000282 (trichome) xref to CL:0000282 (trichome)
CL:0000282 is_a epidermal cell.
The xref from PO:0000282 to CL:0000282 should be on removed, because CL:0000282 really corresponds to PO:0008030 (trichome cell).
It is not clear from the CL definition if CL:0000282 refers to a hair in any organism or only to plant trichomes. If it refers to plant trichome cells only, then CL should obsolete CL:0000282 along with the other plant cell types.
others
- PO:0004531 (sheath cell) xref to CL:0000618 (sheath cell).
CL:0000618 has no definition, but is_a columnar/cuboidal epithelial cell. Suggest we remove this xref and the CL obsolete the term.
- PO:0000263 (atrichoblast) xref to CL:0000332 (atrichoblast).
CL:0000332 is_a epidermal initial, is_a non-terminally differentiated cell (second is_a relation is redundant).
PO definition of atrichblast is: A root epidermal cell that is formed after asymmetric division of an epidermal initial and does not give rise to a root hair.
Suggest that CL obsolete CL:0000332, because it is a plant cell, and their definition is not up to date. We will remove xref.
- PO:0004011/PO:0000070 (initial cell) xref to CL:0000034 (stem cell) and CL:0000266 (meristemoid)
definition of PO:0004011/PO:0000070: A meristematic cell that by division gives rise to two cells, one of which remains meristematic, while the other is added to the plant body. Comment: Initial cells are often part of a portion of tissue that is composed mostly of somewhat older, differentiating cells. The division of an initial cell is often uneven, with the smaller daughter cell remaining meristematic.
definition of CL:0000034: A relatively undifferentiated cell that retains the ability to divide and proliferate throughout life to provide progenitor cells that can differentiate into specialized cells.
definition of CL:0000266: A cell constituting an active locus of meristematic activity in a tissue composed of somewhat older, differentiating cells.
Based on these definitions, PO:0004011/PO:0000070 is a better match to CL:0000266. Furthermore, meristemoid is an exact synonym of initial cell.
We should remove the xref to CL:0000034 and keep the xref to CL:0000266. See below on treating xrefs as equivalent terms.
PO cell types that should reference cell types in CL
A few types of cells are equivalent to remaining CL terms. If so, then they should have a general xref, then assert the general xrefs as equivalent using the header "treat-xrefs-as-equivalent: CL" (see obo format guidelines).
PO:0009002 plant cell > CL:0000610 plant cell
PO:0000423 zygote > CL:0000365 zygote
PO:0004011/PO:0000070 intial cell/meristemoid > CL:0000266 meristemoid
New terms for CL
There are four terms in CL for which PO does not have equivalent terms, because it was set up for only angiosperms. Suggest we add terms like these when we work on the revisions of conducting tissue and cells. For now, Terry has removed the problematic xrefs from CL, will update them if we add new terms.
See conducting cells for non-vascular plants.
New subset for CL
RW has created a new subset for plant cells. It contains all of the is_a descendents of plant cell. CL can use this to create their bridge file.
This subset will need to be updated whenever we add new cell types.
Upcoming meetings 2011:
- POC Meeting at New York Botanic Garden Dates, Sept 10th-11th, 2011
The PO meeting will be on Saturday Sept. 10 and Sunday Sept. 11th.
RW has reserved the NYBG apartment for the nights of Sept. 9 and 10th, but it looks like the Hotel in Yonkers will work better for Laurel, Pankaj amd Barry
We are working on developing the agenda: See: POC Meeting at NYBG; Sept 10th-11th, 2011
