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Revision as of 17:09, 16 September 2011
POC meeting, Webex Conference Call; Date: Tuesday Sept 20th, 2011 10am (PDT)
In attendance:
POC members:
Absent:
Collaborators: none
Acceptance of the minutes from the POC Meeting at NYBG; Sept 10th-11th, 2011?
Summary of Discussions at NYBG; Sept 10th-11th, 2011
Tech issues
Adding Dbx Refs
these have been posted on the POC_Technical_Issues_Page
OWL version stamp
Request from Gavin Kennedy:
"Would it be possible to add an owl:versionInfo attribute to the OWL Plant Ontology so that we can track the changes in versions. This could be the version number or a date stamp, etc."
filter translation
from Mary Schaeffer at MaizeGDB
comments: It would help to have a link to what the filters mean from all pages where one can set the filters. A click on the help box seemed to missing this information, or require reading pages of stuff to find out it wasn't there.
For example - most folks will not know that MGCSC refers to the maize mutant stock collection at Illinois.
Edits to complete before release: PAO
Includes user requests open on Source Forge: PAO
Legume terms
bristle
(used in key as "Stipules spinose or bristles"; might be thought of as a quality, rather than a structure)
At the meeting of RW, MAG and DWS on 8/29/11, we felt this would be better left as a phenotypic descriptor. Should add terms needed to PATO.
New children of calyptra perianth
This was raised at the POC meeting POC_Conf._Call_8-23-11
Existing terms:
- fruit operculum (PO:0025298): A collective organ part structure that is the apical part of a circumsessile capsular fruit that separates from the rest of the capsule during dehiscence. [source: POC:curators]
Comment: Develops from the apical portion of a gynoecium. Found in Eucalyptus and other Myrtaceae.
and
- calyptra perianth (PO:0025299): A perianth that is composed of fused perianth parts and located on top of a gynoecium that contains an inferior ovary. [source: POC:curators]
Comment: May be composed of fused petals, sepals or tepals, but is generally formed from fused petals in Eucalyptus and other Myrtaceae. Sometimes erroneously referred to as part of a fruit. Not the same structure as a spore capsule calyptra.
Synonyms: related: floral operculum; exact: angiosperm calyptra; exact: floral calyptra (suggest we add flower operculum as related and flower calyptra as exact)
Proposed changes: More specific terms for calyptra
At the 8/23/11 meeting, there was a request for more specific terms for calyptras formed of fused petals or fused sepals.
In Eucalyptus, there may be one or two calyptras: an inner operculum or calyptra composed of fused petals and an outer operculum or calyptra composed of fused sepals. In many species, the sepals to do not fuse, and there is no outer operculum.
Our current definition of calyptra perianth includes fused tepals, which would encompass the existing term "fused collective tepal structure" (PO:0025138), but to my knowledge, tepals are not present in Eucalyptus. (The ANBG provides EUCLID, an excellent resource for description of Eucatypus morphology.)
Suggest adding a new term "fused perianth", that is consistent with our other terms such as "fused collective tepal structure". This would be a more general term, and could include perianths that are partially fused.
Proposed new terms and ontology structure:
perianth
> fused perianth (new)
>> fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138)
>> calyptra perianth (flower operculum) (PO:0025299)
>>> calyptra calyx (outer operculum) (new)
>>> calyptra corolla (inner operculum) (new)
- Should we also add terms for fused petal and fused sepal (already have fused tepal)?
terms and definitions
These changes are in the editor's file
- fused perianth: A perianth that is composed of two or more fused perianth parts (sepals, petals or tepals).
Comment: Perianth parts may be partially or wholly fused.
- calyptra perianth (PO:0025299): A fused perianth that is composed of fused sepals or petals and located on top of a gynoecium that contains an inferior ovary.
Comment: Found in Eucalyptus and other Myrtaceae. The petals are generally completely fused. Sometimes erroneously referred to as part of a fruit. Not the same structure as a spore capsule calyptra or fruit operculum. Use the more specific term (calyptra corolla or calyptra calyx) if possible. Species of the subgenus Monocalyptrus have only a calyptra corolla (inner operculum) while in most other species, a calyptra calyx is also present, at least early in flower development.
Synonyms: flower operculum, floral operculum, floral calyptra, flower calyptra, angiosperm calyptra
- calyptra calyx: A calyptra perianth composed of fused sepals.
Comment: Sometimes found in Eucalyptus and other Myrtaceae, covering an inner operculum or calyptra corolla. The sepals are generally completely fused.
Synonyms: outer operculum, operculum calyx
- calyptra corolla: A calyptra perianth composed of fused petals.
Comment: Often found in Eucalyptus and other Myrtaceae. The petals are generally completely fused. If an outer operculum (calyptra calyx) is present, it covers the inner operculum (calyptra corolla).
Synonyms: inner operculum, operculum corolla
- fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138), calyptra calyx and calyptra corolla all have dual parentage (is_a fused perianth and is_a collective tepal structure, calyx, or corolla. If we were to import PATO:0000642 (fused with), we could make cross product definitions and infer one of the relations.
floret
floret is currently a synonym of flower (as decided at the POC_Conf._Call_8-30-11).
We could add a new term floret, is_a flower, part_of inflorescence. Def: A small flower that is part of an inflorescence.
Edits for release: PGDSO
Edits requested by MS for MaizeGDB
coleoptile emergence
Maybe we don't need to do this before the release, because Mary will use radicle emergence stage instead.
From MS (MaizeGDB): It would be more useful for maize if the definition for coleoptile emergence PO:0007045 were altered to be: Emergence of coleoptile from the seed. (rather than above ground)
This could compare well to the radicle definition (PO:0007015 radicle emergence): The stage at which the radicle or root emerges from seed.
At the POC meeting on Sunday_Sept_11th,_2011, we agreed to keep the existing terms that reference emergence from the soil, but rename them as stages, and add new terms for emergence from seed coat. Need to copy over list of existing synonyms to new emergence terms.
Furthermore, shoot emergence is part_of seedling growth, but has no is_a parent, and seedling growth has no is_a parent. Imbibition (sibling of shoot emergence) also has no is_a parent.
current structure:
Shoot emergence (stage) should be is_a seedling growth (stage). Seedling growth (stage) should be is_a vegetative growth stage.
Imbitition (stage) should be is_a germination (stage). Will deal with definitions of imbibition and germination later.
current and proposed terms and definitions
0 germination (PO:0007057): rename "(0) germination stage".
imbibition (PO:0007022): rename "imbibition stage" and make is_a child of "germination stage".
NOTE: RW tried the parentheses around the zero, and they display fine in the dev browser. Will leave it up so we can look at it, but should remove them before release until we are ready to change them all.
current: seedling growth (PO:0007131): Growth of embryo after imbibition up to the development of the first adult leaves. part_of germination
Seedling growth stage should begin after germination, not after imbibition. Imbibition is part of germination, and a seedling does not exist until after germination.
new proposed name and def.: seedling development stage: A vegetative growth stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between germination and development of the first adult leaves.
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants, although non-seed plants may have a comparable phase during which they produce juvenile or transition leaves.
Note: After the PGDSO is revised, the parent of this term will be sporophyte vegetative development stage, so definition will change slightly. Also, the numbering of the children of vegetative growth stage is messed up now. Should we renumber the stages?
All of the terms below originally described a single point in time. We need to figure out when the shoot emergence stage should end.
current: shoot emergence (PO:0007030): Shoot or leaf breaks through the soil surface.
proposed: shoot emergence from growth medium development stage (PO:0007030): A seedling growth stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a part of a shoot system from the growth medium and ???.
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants.
proposed: shoot emergence from seed coat development stage (new number): A seedling growth stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a part of a shoot system from the seed coat and ???.
Comment: May occur simultaneously with shoot emergence form the growth medium. This terms is used only for seed plants.
current: coleoptile emergence (PO:0007045): Emergence of coleoptile above ground. [source: GR:ap, ISBN:3826331524]
proposed: coleoptile emergence from growth medium development stage (PO:0007045): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a coleoptile from the growth medium and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants.
proposed: coleoptile emergence from seed coat development stage (new number): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a coleoptile from the seed coat and ???
Comment: May occur simultaneously with coleoptile emergence form the growth medium. This terms is used only for seed plants.
current: cotyledon emergence (PO:0007049): Emergence of cotyledons above ground. [source: GR:ap, ISBN:3826331524]
proposed: cotyledon emergence from growth medium development stage (PO:0007049): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a cotyledon from the growth medium and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants. Cannot be used in plants with hypogeal germination.
proposed: cotyledon emergence from seed coat development stage (new number): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a cotyledon from the seed coat and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants. Cannot be used in plants with hypogeal germination. May occur simultaneously with cotyledon emergence form the growth medium.
current: epicotyl emergence (PO:0007054): Emergence of the epicotyl above ground. [source: GR:ap, ISBN:0306416875]
proposed: epicotyl emergence from growth medium development stage (PO:0007054): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of an epicotyl from the growth medium and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants. During this phase, only the first true foliage leaf or pair of leaves is visible. Occurs in plants with hypogeal germination.
proposed: epicotyl emergence from seed coat development stage (new number): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of an epicotyl from the seed coat and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants. During this phase, only the first true foliage leaf or pair of leaves is visible. Occurs in plants with hypogeal germination. May occur simultaneously with epicotyl emergence form the growth medium.
current: hypocotyl emergence (PO:0007043): Emergence of the hypocotyl above ground. [source: GR:ap, ISBN:0306416875]
proposed: hypocotyl emergence from growth medium development stage (PO:0007043): A shoot emergence stage has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a hypocotyl from the growth medium and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants. Occurs in plants with epigeal germination.
proposed: hypocotyl emergence from seed coat development stage (new number): A shoot emergence stage that has as a participant a whole plant during the interval between emergence of a hypocotyl from the seed coat and ???
Comment: This terms is used only for seed plants. Occurs in plants with epigeal germination. May occur simultaneously with hypocotyl emergence form the growth medium.
Could also add terms for feeder emergence for some gymnosperms.
For all of the above terms, need to check existing synonyms and move or copy them as needed.
5 fruit formation; FF.00 fruit size 10%
Initial Comment from MS:
"There are currently five stages based on size of final fruit, starting at 10%, etc. There is not any term for very early stage and 10% is already pretty far along from a developmental biology view. Since there seem to be no annotations for any of these stages, suggest instead of introducing new terms to change the definitions a tad. So for FF.00 fruit size 10%, define as up to 10% final size. For the case of the FF.00 fruit size term, the related term for maize would be 6.1 dilatory."
current def'n:FF.00 fruit size 10% (PO:0007032): The stage when the size of the fruit is about 10% of final fruit size. [source: GR:ap, ISBN:3826331524]
Synonyms: related: 7.01 Pod 10% of final length in soybean, related: FF.00 fruit size 10% in Solanaceae, related: stage R3 in soybean, related: tomato immature green
All the other sizes are defined similarly.
proposed def'n.: (based on Mary's suggestion): A fruit formation stage that begins with the formation of a fruit and ends when the fruit has reached 10% of its final size.
Comment: This stage can only be used when the final size of the fruit is known.
At the POC meeting on 9-11-11, we agreed that these stages could be up to and including the % size for now. Should rename terms "fruit size up to 10%", etc.
RW: When does formation of a fruit occur? Should we say fertilization of an ovary instead?
new proposed: FF.00 fruit size up to 10% (PO:0007032): A fruit formation stage that begins with fertilization of an ovary and ends when the fruit has reached 10% of its final size.
Comment: A fruit development stage may begin without fertilization in cases of parthenocarpy, apomixis, or other hormone-induced conditions.
Upcoming meetings and Presentations 2011/2012:
* 2011 CGRB Fall Conference Oregon State University, on Sunday-Monday, September 18-19, 2011.
Two posters related to the Plant Ontology will be presented.
JP will present a poster at the regarding the development of a semantic web application for annotation curation. This web application makes use of PO data via a newly created web service, and includes an initial data set built from PO GAF (.assoc) files for Oryza sativa.
Additionally, he and PJ will host a web presentation for Syngenta employees on the same topic on Sept 26.
LC will present the poster: Expanding the Plant Ontology: Linking Plant Anatomy and Development to Genomics Across Plant Taxa.
PAG 2012
January 14-18, 2012, San Diego, California
Registration and Abstract submissions open on Sept 22nd
LC is presenting in the Plant Phenotypes workshop
The PO will take part in an Outreach booth organized by MaizeGDB
Other activities?
*5th International Biocuration Conference
April 2-4, 2012, Washington DC
Call for abstracts is now open: Need to clarify the deadlines
There are three submission categories for abstracts:
1. Talk or Poster (with consideration for oral presentation)
2. Poster only
3. Workshop only
• Submission deadline November 30, 2011
• Notification of acceptance February 3, 2012
There are seven topic sessions from which submitters are invited to select:
1. Ontologies, standards and best practices, including gold standard datasets. 2. Protein annotation; sequences, structures and pathways. 3. Community annotation and Wikis. 4. Genomics and metagenomics data curation. 5. High throughput proteomics data (focus on NGS and MS data) curation and presentation. 6. Literature collection, text mining and curation. 7. Tools to assist curation, including automated pipelines.
There are four submission tracks:
1. Paper, with consideration for oral presentation 2. Talk 3. Workshop 4. Poster
From the Instructions page: For authors wishing to submit to DATABASE for the 2012 BIOCURATION VIRTUAL ISSUE:
- Submission deadline: October 15, 2011
- First decisions: November 15, 2011
- Revisions deadline: December 15, 2011
- Final decisions: January 10, 2012
- Conference: April 2-4 2012
Botany 2012
July 7 - 11, 2012 - Columbus, Ohio
Call for Symposia, Colloquia and Workshops:
Submission site now open

