POC Conf. Call 2-15-11
POC meeting, Webex Conference Call; Date: Tuesday Feb 15th, 2011 10am (PST)
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Acceptance of the minutes from the POC_Conf._Call_2-08-11?
Update on Progress of Publications
Target journal for a major, detailed paper: This is the top priority right now:
-Plant Physiology:
RW and LC are working on an outline for a manuscript to submit to Plant Physiology. This will be a more detailed description of the changes made to the PSO in the past year, including restructuring.
Will focus on how PO is now applicable to a wider range of plant species. Note: having the MO terms included will be very helpful to this. Once our draft is prepared, we will work with Nick Provart of BAR to collaborate on the analysis section.
Possible target journals for a short paper: PO_Paper_Winter_2011
- Paper for ICBO meeting- suggestion from BS, ICBO call for papers, deadline is March 1st. could be expanded for submission to journal later
Restructuring descendants of leaf (PO:0025034)
-Some of the part_of children of vascular leaf can also be part of non-vascular leaf. This needs to be done before we can add terms for bryophytes.
-Need to double check the is_a children of leaf.
current is_a children of leaf
- non-vascular leaf - ok as is
- vascular leaf - ok as is
- prophyll (PO:0009042) is_a phyllome and scale leaf (PO:0006003) is_a phyllome (see prophyll and scale leaf).
Suggest making prophyll a child of vascular leaf.
Suggest making scale leaf is_a leaf (because the term could be used to refer to non-vascular leaves, even though it is usually used for vascular leaves.
- Suggest adding frond and needle as exact synonyms of vascular leaf
current part_of children of leaf
- leaf apex - ok as is - applies to both vascular and non-vascular leaf
- leaf base - ok as is - applies to both vascular and non-vascular leaf
- leaf epidermis - ok as is - The term may be used for non-vascular leaves, even though many are only one cell thick.
Need to consider if the definition of epidermis works bryophytes (see section below on Physco terms).
- leaf endodermis -- Is there ever an endodermis in non-vascular leaves? If not, this should be part_of vascular leaf.
current is_a children of vascular leaf
Is there heteroblasty in non-vascular leaves? do these terms apply?
- juvenile leaf
- transition leaf
- adult leaf
Physco group has included these terms in their ontology, but said they are not sure if they are necessary. Said there are differences among phyllids based on their position on the stem (more basal versus more terminal), but the terms juvenile and adult are not necessarily used to describe them. If we want to use them for non-vascular leaves, we either need to make them children of leaf instead of vascular leaf, or add separate terms for vascular and non-vascular juvenile, transition and adult leaves.
Do we want to keep these (as phenotype terms)? At one point we discussed getting rid of them.
- simple leaf
- compound leaf
Terms that are probably okay:
- cotyledon - ok
- leaf spine - ok
- cigar leaf - ok
- rosette leaf - probably ok as child of vascular leaf - Are there ever rosette's in gametophytes?
- cauline leaf - definition is a bit weird, actually applies to leaves that are part of an inflorescence (which we call bracts)
Current def: Leaf or pairs/whorls of leaves borne on the stem. [source: TAIR:ki]. Comment: In Arabidopsis, refers to the leaves that are borne on the elongated inflorescence branches.
Proposed def: A leaf that is borne on a stem.
Comment:
current part_of children of vascular leaf
Terms that are probably okay (only occur in vascular leaves):
- auricle - ok
- bundle sheath - ok
- leaf abscission zone - ok
- leaf collar - ok
- leaf vascular system - ok
- ligule - ok
- petiole - ok
- stipule - ok
- leaf intercalary meristem - probably ok - does it ever occur in non-vascular leaves?
- leaf sheath - probably ok - does it ever occur in non-vascular leaves?
(see part_of children of leaf)
Terms I'm not sure about:
- leaf aerenchyma- is there ever aerenchyma in non-vascular leaves?
- leaf mesophyll - should probably be part of leaf. Is there a mesophyll in non-vascular leaves?
Terms that should be part of leaf:
- leaf lamina - should be part_of leaf
- leaf margin - should be part_of leaf
- leaf base and leaf apex are already part of leaf (rather than vascular leaf)
Question from sharon.lewis@syngenta.com to Pankaj:Re: changing name of "leaf" to "vascular leaf"
> We are just updating our internal copies of some ontologies, and noticed some changes in the Plant Structure ontology from the Plant Ontology Consortium. (As you know we also use the Trait Ontology.) >
> We don’t so much like the change of “leaf” to “vascular leaf” for several reasons. If we use “vascular leaf” in an alphabetically ordered pulldown menu, users will miss it if they’re looking for leaf. Could you use “leaf, vascular” instead?
> I think I understand why the increased granularity was added in this area. (Sort of – if mosses aren’t really plants, why does the POC care about them?) I understand that the old “leaf” really meant leaf of a vascular plant, and the new “leaf” is supposed to mean something else.
> It causes search problems for us when a term is added that is the same term as a previous one, but with a different code. Do you know how others handle this situation?
Physcomitrella terms:
See Terms requested by Physco group for a list of terms.
Completion of Physco items from last week's agenda
Fill in here if any items from last week require further discussion
New items for Physco
Shoot apical meristem/apical cell
Apical development in bryophytes
Whole plant structures
These structures could either be is_a whole plant, or could be considered life-cycle phases (part of gametophytic phase). Need to decide how to handle them.
All definitions below are from Celia Knight,Pierre-François Perroud,David Cove (2009): The moss Physcomitrella patens. The Annual Plant Review 36, Glossary
protonema - The filamentous stage of gametophyte development. Protonemal tissue is produced following spore germination or the regeneration of most tissues (whether gametophytic or sporophytic). In most moss species, protonemal filaments comprise two cell types, caulonema (q.v.) and chloronema (q.v.). Both types of filament extend by the serial division of their apical cells. Sub-apical cells may branch.
Protonemata may develop from a spore or from a fragment of gametophytic tissue.
chloronema - The assimilitory filaments of the protonemal stage of gametophyte development. Compared to caulonmeal filaments, the cells of P. patens chloronemal filaments contain many well developed chloroplasts. The cross walls of adjacent cells in chloronemal filaments are perpenicular to the filament axis.
caulonema - The adventitious filaments of the protonemal stage of gemtophyte development. Compared to chloronemal filaments, the cells of P. Patnes caulonemal filaments contain only fewer, less well developed chloroplasts. The cross walls of adjacent cells in caulonemal filaments are oblique to the filament axis.
Collective plant structures
gametophore bud - A structure produced by a caulonema and able to develop into a gametophore or a stem that includes an apical cell able to develop into a gametophore. The earliest recognizable stage of gametophore development. Bill and Nancy Malcolm (2006): Mosses and other Bryophytes, an illustrated glossary, second edition and altered by David Cove
gametophore - The leafy moss plant. The gametophore is the adult form of the moss gametophyte and bearer of the sex organs (gametangia). Reski (1998): Development, genetics and molecular biology of mosses. Botanica Acta 111, 1-15.
Actually, the gametophore is only the leafy part of the gametophyte, minus the protonema
perigynium/perigonium
Upcoming meetings 2011:
- Phenotype Ontology RCN Summit
February 25-27, 2010 at the National Evolutionary Synthesis Center in Durham, NC,
Laurel and Pankaj will be attending.
From RW: -What is official PO strategy for dealing with phenotypes?
-Should it differ between description of mutant phenotypes and descriptions needed for systematic studies?
-Should PO develop a list of terms to be submitted to PATO (rather than our current piecemeal suggestions)?
-Possible case study: description of inflorescence types.
* ICBO 2011 Second International Conference on Biomedical Ontology
July 26-30, 2011
Buffalo, New York
CALL FOR WORKSHOP AND TUTORIAL PROPOSALS: The deadline for workshop and tutorial proposals for the ICBO conference has been extended to February 15th, 2011
- We decided we are too shorthanded to put together a PO workshop, but Melissa, Alan and Chris are organizing an anatomy ontology workshop.
- LC will attend and represent the PO. Invite other plant people?
-BS suggested we might want to submit a short paper which could be published in longer form later- see above
* International Botanical Congress (IBC2011)
July 23rd-30th 2011, Melbourne, Australia
Registration is open Important dates
Symposium proposal was accepted, 'Bio-Ontologies for the Plant Sciences' under the Genetics, Genomics and Bioinformatics theme.
Dennis, Alejandra, Pankaj and Ramona are planning to attend.
See IBC 2011 Bio-Ontologies Symposium wiki page for more details
