POC Conf. Call 12-8-10

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POC meeting, Webex Conference Call; Date: Wednesday Dec 8st, 2010 10am (PST)

In attendance:

POC members:

Absent:

Collaborators: none


Acceptance of the minutes from the POC Conf. Call 12-1-10?


Old agenda items

User requests still open on Source Forge

Musa terms

Requested by Rosemary Shrestha (July 2010). Many of these are synonyms of existing terms. Also see spread sheet attached to SF tracker item.


Completed Musa requests:

We dealt following terms at the POC meeting on 11-5-2010 (see minutes from Friday,_November_5th for more details):


Petiole wing: synonym of petiole lamina. Added new term petiole lamina.

Petiole margin: Added comment: generally in flattened petioles, but may also occur as extensions of petioles that are rounded or c-shaped in cross section.

Cigar leaf: Although it is a phenotype, we added the term for Musa subset. May apply to other species as well, especially in monocots. is_a vascular leaf.

Petiole margin edge: Should just use petiole margin

Cigar leaf dorsal surface: Added new term, cigar leaf abaxial epidermis, is a leaf abaxial epidermis, part_of cigar leaf.

Free tepal: Added a new term to PO that is a cross-product of PO tepal and PATO free (need to request).

Need to ask Chris M if these new phenotype terms should have PO id's or should have a new id, like POXP

Free tepal apex: Added new terms tepal base and tepal apex (plus phyllome base and phyllome apex). Musa folks (and others) can describe fused tepal apex post-compositionally using tepal apex and fused tepal.

Also added new term leaf tip, which is part of leaf apex.

Compound tepal lobe: Musa folks (and others) can describe compound tepal lobe by post-compositionally using tepal apex and compound tepal.

Peduncle surface: New term peduncle epidermis added

Peduncle hairs: New term peduncle trichome added

Bract apex: New term added

Bract base: New term added

Bract external face: New term added: bract abaxial epidermis, sibling to leaf abaxial epidermis, child of new term phyllome abaxial epidermis.

Bract internal face: New term added: bract adaxial epidermis, sibling to leaf adaxial epidermis, child of new term phyllome adaxial epidermis.

Hermaphrodite flower: Added as synonym of flower. Need to request staminate and pistillate in PATO, so users can describe this terms as a XP

Female flower: Added as synonym of flower. Need to request staminate and pistillate in PATO, so users can describe this terms as a XP


Issues arising from new terms:

Petiole canal: The upper (adaxial) canal along the petiole. part_of CO_125.0000057 ! petiole

Added term 'adaxial petiole': A cardinal organ part that is the adaxial portion of petiole. Comment: Adaxial petiole may be concave or form a canal. Narrow synonym: petiole canal.

Also added abaxial petiole, with parallel definition.

Now that we have anatomical space, maybe we should add this as a space?

Compound tepal: Added a new term to PO that is a cross-product of PO tepal and PATO fused (PATO:0000642).

RW (after meeting): this will cover the individual tepals, but also need to add a term compound collective tepal structure, which is what they are actually describing.

suggested definition: A collective tepal structure in which the tepals are fused.

Musa requests still needing to be resolved:

Below is a list of the requested terms, with definitions and is a or part of relations from Rosemary, followed by suggestions and/or proposed definitions for PO format.


2. Musa flower terms


o Basal flower: First flowers emerging on the inflorescence with the potential to give rise to fruits. part_of CO_125.0000136 ! basal bud

Do we want to describe different flowers on the infloresence? If so, we could add general term basal flower: a flower at the proximal end of on an inflorescence. Comment: in Musa, the basal flowers are the first to emerge and have the potential to give rise to fruits.

No resolution on this issue.


o Crown: The raised ridge of tissue to which the pedicels are attached.

Is this part of an inflorescence, part of an inflorescence axis?

This refers to the inflorescence axes between individual flowers that do not elongate. It is a shoot system that is part of the inflorescence (which is also a shoot system).


o Male bud: The usually persistent bud when it is only composed of bracts with male flowers. is_a: CO_125.0000146 ! bud; is_a: CO_125.0000146 ! bud

Proposed definition: An inflorescence bud that develops into a male inflorescence.

If we go this route, we will need to add male, female and hermaphrodite reproductive bud, male, female and hermaphrodite inflorescence bud, male, female and hermaphrodite floral bud, and male, female and hermaphrodite inflorescence, plus the floral terms described above.

No resolution on this item.


3. Musa fruit terms

Discussion of these terms was postponed for a future meeting.


o Bunch: The descriptive term for all the fruits along the rachis. part_of CO_125.0000048 ! inflorescence. Syn: "infructescence" BROAD

This could be a narrow synonym of infructescence (PO:0006342). Not sure what they mean by rachis in this definition


o Hand of fruits: All the fruits that develop in the axil of a single bract. part_of CO_125.0000014 ! bunch

Musa flower is a compound spike. A branch of the spike develops from the axil of a single bract, and when mature produces a 'hand' of fruits. All of the branches of the compound spike together, when mature, are a bunch of bananas. A hand is an inflorescence branch that matures into a branch of an infructescence.

Current definition of infructescence (PO:0006342): The grouping or arrangement in which fruits are borne on a plant, is_a shoot system, develops_from inflorescence.

First we need to properly redefine inflorescence. Current definition of inflorescence: That part of the axial system of plants above the uppermost foliage leaf/pair of foliage leaves that bears flowers, is_a reproductive shoot system.

Proposed definition of inflorescence: a reproductive shoot system that has as parts all of the shoot axes distal to the most distal foliage leaf of a shoot axis and that has as parts two or more flowers.

Proposed definition of infructescence: a reproductive shoot system that has as parts all of the shoot axes distal to the most distal foliage leaf of a shoot axis and has as parts two or more fruits. Develops_from inflorescence.

We already have the term inflorescence branch (PO:0009081: Any branch forming from the primary or the higher order inflorescence axis). Suggest modifying this slightly to: A secondary or higher order branch of an inflorescence. is_a reproductive shoot system, part_of inflorescence.

Based on this, we can add new term infructescence branch, which has the synonym hand.

Proposed definition of infructescence branch:: A secondary or higher order branch of an infructescence. is_a reproductive shoot system, develops_from inflorescence branch, part_of infructescence. Synonym: hand [narrow]


o Flower relicts: Remains of a female flower when it persists on the fruit. part_of CO_125.0000033 ! fruit

Probably should just annotate to whatever part of the flower it is that remains (petal, tepal, etc.)


4. Musa shoot terms

Discussion of these terms was postponed for a future meeting.


o Sucker: Lateral shoot that develops from the corm and usually emerges close to the parent plant. is_a: CO_125.0000001 ! plant part

This would probably be a synonym of axillary shoot, but will depend on how we end up organizing shoot system (see above).

Will probably need to be a broad synonym, because (I think) people also use the term sucker to refer to root-borne shoots.


o Pseudostem: 'False stem' of cylinders formed by the concentric leaf sheaths through which the peduncle later grows. is_a: CO_125.0000001 ! plant part

Tricky. Could this be a collective phyllome structure?


o Pseudostem underlayers: Abaxial side of the inner sheath which is not visible until the outermost sheath has been removed. part_of CO_125.0000046 ! pseudostem

This is the abaxial portion of a leaf sheath (PO:0020104). We could make a new term leaf sheath abaxial epidermis (sibling of petiole abaxial epidermis, is_a leaf epidermis)


-(MP) Adding/modifying the root terms submitted by Rich Zobel (Nov 2009).

-(MP) Legume terms submitted by Austin Mast: Taproot, Stem Hair, Prickles, Fascicle, Bristle (used in key as "Stipules spinose or bristles"; might be thought of as a quality, rather than a structure), Phyllode, Banner (as in a legume flower), Wing (as in a legume flower), Keel (as in a legume flower), Anther pore and anther slit, Locule

-(MP) Elena Kramer suggested that we add the term spur to the PSO and consider dealing with common primordia in the PGDSO.

-(MP) Paula Rudall commented that the current definition of central cell has a different meaning in gymnosperms.

-(MP) TraitNet requested several new terms for the PSO: corm, spine, podarium, pneumatophore, stele, diaspore, cone, sorus, and tendril.


-(HP) tuber growth and development stages: open on SF since 6/2009

-(LP) post harvest stages: this is an old request, but no one ever commented on it.

-(MP) terms for seed development stages:this is a fairly new request for terms for cotton