POC Conf. Call 6-4-13
POC meeting, Webex Conference Call; Date: Tuesday June 4th, 2013 10am PST/1pm EST
In attendance: Laurel Cooper (OSU), Justin Preece (OSU), Justin Elser (OSU), Pankaj Jaiswal (OSU), Marie Alejandra Gandolfo (Cornell), Barry Smith (University at Buffalo, NY).
Absent: Dennis W Stevenson (NYBG)
Plans for Upcoming Release #20
Need to discuss the timing of the Release. Scheduled for "June".
See details on the Release_20 page.
LC will be out June 19-23rd and 28th.
We will plan to do the next release around the end of July, will aim to include the update to AmiGO 1.8 and can introduce and announce the mirrored site at iPLant
Continuation of discussion about fused collective tepal from 5-28-13
See the discussion on 5-28-13 for full details: fused collective tepal structure
tepal, petal and sepal and the collective floral structures: perianth, corolla and calyx
Need to also revise the definition of petals and sepals, open trackers
Existing def'ns and revised ones:
- perianth (PO:0009058): A collective phyllome structure composed of two or more petals, sepals, or tepals. additional tracker
- REVISED:A collective phyllome structure (PO:0025023) that includes as parts the corolla (PO:0009059) and/or the calyx (PO:0009060) one or more tepals (PO:0009033).
A collective tepal structure is_a perianth.
- corolla (PO:0009059):A collective phyllome structure composed of two or more petals.
- A collective phyllome structure (PO:0025023) composed of one or more petal(s) (PO:0009032), which comprises the inner whorl of non-fertile organs and surrounds the androecium (PO:0009061) and/or gynoecium (PO:0009062).
what if there is no calyx?, Is it still the inner whorl?- look at example form Betulaceae or Fagaceae. In some cases, they are distinguished on the basis of different color.
Don't need the parentheses, it is grammatically correct to say "one or more petals"
In other cases such as the e.g. Weinmannia from the Cunoniaceae, there are only sepals, forming the calyx.
- petal (PO:0009032): A member of the corolla, the inner whorl of non-fertile parts surrounding the fertile organs of a flower, usually soft and colored conspicuously. [source: APweb:Glossary]
- A phyllome (PO:0006001) that is usually soft and conspicuously colored, and is part of the corolla (PO:0009059).
What makes a petal: position, color, many exceptions
Revised def'n:
Add comment that these definitions are based on the perfect flower, which has all four whorls. In many species, and in one or more of the whorls are missing
- calyx (PO:0009060): A collective phyllome structure composed of two or more sepals.
- A collective phyllome structure (PO:0025023) that is composed of one or more sepals (PO:0009031), and comprises the outer whorl of non-fertile floral organs (PO:0025395).
- sepal (PO:0009031): A member of the (usually green) outer whorl of non-fertile parts surrounding the fertile organs of a flower. [source: APweb:Glossary].
- A phyllome (PO:0006001) that is usually green, and is part of the calyx (PO:0009060).
- collective tepal structure (PO:0025021): A perianth (PO:0009058) consisting of two or more tepals (PO:0009033).
- REVISED: A perianth (PO:0009058) consisting of one or more tepals(PO:0009033). Could it be only 1?
Yes, We decided that it was ok to define it as having one or more- and it is consistent with the other 2 collective structure, the corolla and calyx.
- tepal (PO:0009033): A phyllome that is part of a perianth in which all parts are similar in appearance and are neither petals nor sepals. [source: POC:curators]
- REVISED: A phyllome (PO:0006001) that is part of a perianth (PO:0009058) in which all parts are similar in appearance and it is not possible to distinguish between the petals (PO:0009032) or sepals (PO:0009031).
Cannot say all parts as that include molecules etc, maybe should say "cardinal parts';
Revised def'n: A phyllome (PO:0006001) that is part of a perianth (PO:0009058) where it is not possible to distinguish between the petals (PO:0009032) and sepals (PO:0009031). Explain in comments. Where there is no differentiation between the petals and the sepals.
- fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138): A collective tepal structure that has as parts at least two fused tepals.
- Comment: This is a phenotype that is a cross-product of PO:0025021 (collective tepal structure) and PATO:0000642 (fused with). In Musa, there are there are 5 fused tepals which form 3 major lobes and 2 minor lobes. In subset Musa
- REVISED: fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138): A collective tepal structure (PO:0025021) in which at least two tepals (PO:0025137) are fused (PATO:0000642). in this case there has to be more than 1 and it can also include free tepals.
- Comment:The fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138) includes as parts two or more fused tepals (PO:0025137) and may also include one or more free tepal(s) (PO:0025136), which are unfused.
- Moved comment about Musa to XXXX term, made free tepal part of collective tepal structure; added DBXref to PATO
- Comment:The fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138) includes as parts two or more fused tepals (PO:0025137) and may also include one or more free tepal(s) (PO:0025136), which are unfused.
- fused tepal (PO:0025137): A tepal (PO:0009033) that is fused to another tepal (PO:0009033).
- REVISED:A tepal (PO:0009033) that is part of a fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138) and is fused (PATO:0000642) to at least one other tepal.
- added DBXref to PATO
- REVISED:A tepal (PO:0009033) that is part of a fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138) and is fused (PATO:0000642) to at least one other tepal.
- free tepal (PO:0025136): A tepal that is separate from all other tepals
- Revised:A tepal (PO:0009033) that is part of a fused collective tepal structure (PO:0025138) but is separate from (PATO:0001505) the other tepals.
New terms needed:
- fused perianth:
- fused corolla: - parent to calyptra corolla (PO:0025330): A corolla (PO:0009059) that is composed of fused petals (PO:0009032).
- fused calyx: - parent to calyptra calyx (PO:0025329):
- fused petal-
part of the corolla spur (PO:0025512): A collective organ part structure (PO:0025269) that is a slender, hollow extension of a corolla and has as parts segments of two more fused petals.
- fused sepal
Question about epicalyx
- epicalyx (PO:00090630): A collective phyllome structure (PO:0025023) composed of two or more phyllomes immediately outside the calyx (PO:0009060). [source: POC:curators]
Do we need a new term for epicalyx bract? - What are the individual members of the epicalyx; they are bracts.
Existing term: flower bract (PO:0009034): A bract that subtends a perianth that is part of a flower. [source: POC:curators]
Add epicalyx bract as an exact synonym?, or make a new child of flower bract . Not every flower bract is part of an epicalyx
Example from MAG: In the Trocodondraceae, the perianth is completely lacking, but they have little bracts subtending the reproductive structure].
epicalyx bract (new term): A flower bract (PO:0009034) that is part of the epicalyx (PO:0009063). It will be sibling to the existing terms lemma and palea.
Other Items for discussion
- please see the Items_for_future_meetings page, will be moved here before the meeting
Upcoming meetings and Presentations 2013:
MONOCOTS V Meeting at NYBG, July 5th - 14th, 2013
5th International Conference on Comparative Biology of Monocotyledons Friday, July 05, 2013 7:00 AM - Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 PM (Eastern Time)
The New York Botanical Garden & Fordham University
ICBO 2013, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec July 7th - 9th 2013
4th International Conference on Biomedical Ontologies 2013 (ICBO2013)
Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec, July 7th - 9th 2013 call for papers
The conference aim is to foster discussion, exchange, and innovation in research and development in the areas Biomedical Ontology. Researchers and professionals from biology, medicine, computer science and engineering are invited to share their knowledge and experience.
The event is part of the Semantic Trilogy 2013 featuring:
- International Conference on Biomedical Ontologies (ICBO 2013)
- Canadian Semantic Web Symposium (CSWS 2013)
- Data Integration in the Life Sciences (DILS 2013)
Workshop on Semantic Systems Biology 2013 (SSB2013) will be held as part of the International Conference on Biomedical Ontologies (ICBO2013) at Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec, on July 7th, 2013. The event is part of the Semantic Trilogy 2013 (above)
Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:
- ontologies & terminologies for modeling computational biology
- ontologies & terminologies for simulation (and result data) in computational biology/medicine/neuroscience
- semantic web technologies for description, integration, query and discovery of models, simulations and result data
- semantic web technologies for biological data and analysis
- semantic annotations of bio-models
- applications of ontologies in computational systems biology/medicine/neuroscience
- semantic platforms for undertaking and visualizing simulation results
We welcome four types of submissions:
- short papers, up to 4 pages.
- long papers, up to 7 pages.
- position papers, up to 1 page.
- late breaking reports, up to 1 page.
See the ICBO website for further information on the submission types.
All submission are due on Monday, April 15 2013. Notification of acceptance: May 6th, 2013
Botanical Society Meeting July 27-31st New Orleans
- MAG is planning to present the work she has been doing with the images and slides, will circulate the abstract