POC Conf. Call 6-12-12 - Revision history

Rwalls: /* cardinal organ part (PO:0025001) */

2012-06-13T15:26:49Z

cardinal organ part (PO:0025001)

Rwalls: /* plant ovary (PO:0009072): */

2012-06-13T15:19:01Z

plant ovary (PO:0009072):

Rwalls: /* Sub-classes of MTPS: */

2012-06-13T15:16:24Z

Sub-classes of MTPS:

Rwalls: /* New proposed term: multi-tissue plant structure (MTPS) (PO:0025496) */

2012-06-13T15:10:47Z

New proposed term: multi-tissue plant structure (MTPS) (PO:0025496)

Rwalls: /* New proposed hierarchy: */

2012-06-13T14:55:08Z

New proposed hierarchy:

Rwalls: /* New proposed hierarchy: */

2012-06-13T14:54:01Z

New proposed hierarchy:

Cooperl at 21:16, 12 June 2012

2012-06-12T21:16:49Z

Cooperl at 21:16, 12 June 2012

2012-06-12T21:16:05Z

Cooperl: /* Sub-classes of collective plant structure (PO:id) */

2012-06-12T20:06:51Z

Sub-classes of collective plant structure (PO:id)

Cooperl: /* plant ovary (PO:0009072): */

2012-06-12T20:02:14Z

plant ovary (PO:0009072):

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 '''From discussion on 5-8-12:'''
-Maybe it would be better to say '''cardinal part of collective plant organ'''?
+Maybe it would be better to say '''cardinal part of plant organ'''?
 FMA has "regional parts". It is like a "zone", which PO uses in a few terms. We also have terms like leaf tip or leaf lobe that are regional parts.

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 ''does this mean that carpel should be a MTPS?, currently it is a plant organ''  Plant organ is a MTPS.
-''This only worked as a subtype of cardinal part of MTPS when collective plant structure was a MTPS, because ovary can be part of either carpel or gyneocium (which is a CPS). The new hierarchy doesn't solve the problem of parentage of ovary.''
+''This does not work as a subtype of cardinal part of MTPS, because ovary can be part of either carpel (a MTPS) or gyneocium (a CPS). If CPS were a subtype of MTPS, this would work, but the current working hierarchy doesn't solve the problem of parentage of ovary.''
 ===New term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530834&group_id=76834&atid=835555 collective plant structure (PO:0025497)]===

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 ==Sub-classes of MTPS:==
 -what about rhizoid (PO:0030078) and trichome (PO:0000282) and vascular system??
 ===[https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3458354&group_id=76834&atid=835555 seed (PO:0009010)]:===
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 note: An ovary is either the basal part of a carpel (in an apocarpous gyneocium) or the basal part of a syncarpous gynoecium. This is how it is defined in Esau, Raven, Weberling, etc
-''This should be a cardinal part of a multi-tissue plant structure''
+revised def'n:  A cardinal part of multi-tissue plant structure (PO:0025498) that is the basal portion of a carpel (PO:0009030) or group of fused carpels and encloses the plant ovule(s) (PO:0020003).
-''does this mean that carpel should be a MTPS?, currently it is a plant organ''
+''This only worked as a subtype of cardinal part of MTPS when collective plant structure was a MTPS, because ovary can be part of either carpel or gyneocium (which is a CPS). The new hierarchy doesn't solve the problem of parentage of ovary.''
 ===New term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530834&group_id=76834&atid=835555 collective plant structure (PO:0025497)]===
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 proposed definition: A multi-tissue plant structure (PO:0025496) that is a proper part of a whole plant (PO:0000003) and includes two or more different plant organs (PO:0009008), or cardinal organ parts (PO:0025001), along with any associated portions of plant tissue (PO:0009007).
+''Should say "adjacent plant organs" and "adjacent cardinal organ parts".''
 ==Sub-classes of collective plant structure (PO:)==

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 Comment from RW: I think this term could be interpreted to be a parent to ''collective plant organ structure'' (CPOS), since CPOS's have two or more tissue and form a distinct structural unit (think of a flower or a gynoecium or a shoot system as a structural unit).
-''We need to consult with CARO to clarify the distinction between structures with bona-fide and fiat boundaries and if they are included "
+''We decided that CPS (and its children CPOS and CPOP) should not be subtypes of MTPS, because they are not always distinct structural units.''
 ==Sub-classes of MTPS:==

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	''plant ovary should be a subtype of the new term cardinal part of multi-tissue structure''		''plant ovary should be a subtype of the new term cardinal part of multi-tissue structure''
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		+	''Collective plant structure (new term) should be a subtype of plant structure. Some discussion of whether or not CPS's are "distinct structural units". Probably not all are, so better to keep under plant structure''

	==New proposed term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530843&group_id=76834&atid=835555 multi-tissue plant structure (MTPS) (PO:0025496)]==		==New proposed term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530843&group_id=76834&atid=835555 multi-tissue plant structure (MTPS) (PO:0025496)]==

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	[[File:Muti-tissue plant structure.png]]		[[File:Muti-tissue plant structure.png]]
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		+	''plant ovary should be a subtype of the new term cardinal part of multi-tissue structure''

	==New proposed term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530843&group_id=76834&atid=835555 multi-tissue plant structure (MTPS) (PO:0025496)]==		==New proposed term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530843&group_id=76834&atid=835555 multi-tissue plant structure (MTPS) (PO:0025496)]==

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 In attendance:
-POC members: ''Laurel Cooper (OSU), Ramona Walls (NYBG), Pankaj Jaiswal (OSU), Justin Preece (OSU), Justin Elser (OSU), Dennis Stevenson (NYBG)''
+POC members: ''Laurel Cooper (OSU), Ramona Walls (NYBG), Pankaj Jaiswal (OSU), Justin Preece (OSU), Justin Elser (OSU), Dennis Stevenson (NYBG), Barry Smith (University at Buffalo, NY).''
-Absent:''Marie Alejandra Gandolfo (Cornell), ''
+Absent: ''Marie Alejandra Gandolfo (Cornell), Chris Mungall (Lawrence Berkeley National Lab)' ''

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 ''Should say "adjacent plant organs"''
-==Sub-classes of collective plant structure (PO:id)==
+==Sub-classes of collective plant structure (PO:)==
 ===[https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2954382&group_id=76834&atid=835555 collective plant organ structure] (PO:0025007)===

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	revised def'n: A cardinal part of multi-tissue plant structure (PO:0025498) that is the basal portion of a carpel (PO:0009030) or group of fused carpels and encloses the plant ovule(s) (PO:0020003).		revised def'n: A cardinal part of multi-tissue plant structure (PO:0025498) that is the basal portion of a carpel (PO:0009030) or group of fused carpels and encloses the plant ovule(s) (PO:0020003).
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		+	''does this mean that carpel should be a MTPS?, currently it is a plant organ''

	===New term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530834&group_id=76834&atid=835555 collective plant structure (PO:0025497)]===		===New term: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530834&group_id=76834&atid=835555 collective plant structure (PO:0025497)]===