POC Conf. Call 5-8-12 - Revision history

Cooperl: /* Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday, May 22nd, 2012 at 10am PDT/1pm EDT */

2012-05-24T18:15:48Z

Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday, May 22nd, 2012 at 10am PDT/1pm EDT

2012-05-10T15:17:38Z

Botany 2012

2012-05-10T15:16:23Z

gynoecium

2012-05-10T15:05:43Z

collective plant structure - new discussion

2012-05-10T14:42:01Z

parts of fruit and parts of gyneocium

2012-05-10T14:20:55Z

'collective plant structure - new discussion'

2012-05-10T14:10:48Z

parts of fruit and parts of gyneocium

2012-05-10T14:08:45Z

parts of seed (PO:0009010)

2012-05-09T21:24:53Z

Botany 2012

2012-05-09T21:21:46Z

PO-CARO

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	=Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday, May 22nd, 2012 at 10am PDT/1pm EDT=		=Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday, May 22nd, 2012 at 10am PDT/1pm EDT=
−	See: [[POC_Conf._Call_5-22-12]]~~: MAG, RW and BS will be away~~	+	See: [[POC_Conf._Call_5-22-12]]

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 PJ: suggest that we go there with a 'draft' version of the Plant Phenotype Ontology and show them how to use these in character matrices.
-''A desktop version of the image annotation software should be ready to demo at this meeting.''
+A desktop version of the image annotation software should be ready to demo at this meeting.
 ===exhibitor's booth===

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 ===''gynoecium''===
-''Need to switch wording for the comment and definition of gynoecium, so the definition says one or more carpels, but then comment says may have only one carpel, but we still consider it a collective phyllome structure.''
+''We need to add syncarpous and apocarpous gynoecium as synonyms of gynoecium. Maybe also terms for plurocarpate(ous?) and unicarpellate gynoecium. Apocarpous is still used of a single carpel gynoecium.''
 ==other==

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	''Do we need "cardinal" in the name? It's a bit unwieldy.''		''Do we need "cardinal" in the name? It's a bit unwieldy.''
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		+	''Maybe it would be better to say "cardinal part of collective plant structure" and "cardinal part of plant organ.''
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		+	''FMA has "regional parts". It is like a "zone", which PO uses in a few terms. We also have terms like leaf tip or leaf lope that are regional parts.''
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		+	''This is what we call a cardinal part. BS: Biological significance is not all of the story for cardinal parts. They should also have their own boudaries on all sides (??), as opposed to regional parts, which just have a boundary on one side.''

	==parts of [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555 fruit] and parts of gyneocium==		==parts of [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555 fruit] and parts of gyneocium==

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 * fruit distal end
 * fruit proximal end
-* fruit valve (is_a valve, which is_a COP)
+* fruit valve (is_a valve, which is_a COP) ''Does a fruit valve always come from a carpel? Are the sutures ever in the middle of what were carpels?''
 ==other==

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 ''Some discussion of organisms contained in other organism (e.g., embryo in seed, gametophyte in ovule). Right now, these are part_of relations in PO. Maybe these should be "contained in". Need a word for a structure that involves more than a single plant.''
-=='collective plant structure - new discussion'==
+==''collective plant structure - new discussion''==
-''We need a general term for collective plant structures that can be collections of things other than organs.''
+''We need a general term for collective plant structures that can be collections of things other than organs. This would be parent of collective organ part structure and other types of collective structures.''
-''Maybe rename CPS to "collective plant organ structure".''
+''Maybe rename current CPS to "collective plant organ structure".''
 ==parts of [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555 fruit] and parts of gyneocium==

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	''Some discussion of organisms contained in other organism (e.g., embryo in seed, gametophyte in ovule). Right now, these are part_of relations in PO. Maybe these should be "contained in". Need a word for a structure that involves more than a single plant.''		''Some discussion of organisms contained in other organism (e.g., embryo in seed, gametophyte in ovule). Right now, these are part_of relations in PO. Maybe these should be "contained in". Need a word for a structure that involves more than a single plant.''
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		+	=='collective plant structure - new discussion'==
		+	''We need a general term for collective plant structures that can be collections of things other than organs.''
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		+	''Maybe rename CPS to "collective plant organ structure".''
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	==parts of [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555 fruit] and parts of gyneocium==		==parts of [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555 fruit] and parts of gyneocium==

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 COP's that are part of a seed: :  hilum (PO:0020063), hilum groove (PO:0004719); arilloid (PO:0019022); seed funicle (PO:0006332)(>stalk > COP); seed raphe (PO:0006331)
 Suggested solution: make seed is_a plant organ
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 -Note: The definition of plant structure (the genus) encompasses any entity that is:  "An anatomical structure that is or was part of a plant, or was derived from a part of a plant."
 Issue: a seed has an embryo (and other things) as part.
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 Suggest adding comment to plant organ saying that is may have other plant organs as parts and add comment CPS it from plant organ (see below).
 ==parts of [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555 fruit] and parts of gyneocium==

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 see: [http://www.2012.botanyconference.org/info/Workshops.php Botany 2012 workshops]
-The meeting web site has been fixed so this is now listed as a half-day (morning) workshop. The schedule now links to the correct abstract.
+This is a half-day (morning) workshop. The schedule now links to the correct abstract.
-RW will prepare an announcement for the PO home page and FB page.
+An announcement has been posted on the PO home page and FB page.
-Workshop goal will be to teach people (mostly botanists) how to access and use the PO, including how to send feedback, suggest new terms, etc.
+Workshop goal: will be to teach people (mostly botanists) how to access and use the PO, including how to send feedback, suggest new terms, etc.
 PJ: suggest that we go there with a 'draft' version of the Plant Phenotype Ontology and show them how to use these in character matrices.

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 ==Root primordia and roots==
 ==ovule==
 =Upcoming meetings and Presentations 2012:=