POC Conf. Call 4-6-10 - Revision history

Rwalls at 15:36, 9 April 2010

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Rwalls at 11:20, 9 April 2010

2010-04-09T11:20:33Z

Rwalls: changed tepals to sepals at end of item 1

2010-04-08T12:17:10Z

changed tepals to sepals at end of item 1

Cooperl at 22:06, 7 April 2010

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Cooperl at 22:06, 7 April 2010

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Cooperl at 22:28, 6 April 2010

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Cooperl at 22:22, 6 April 2010

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Cooperl at 21:51, 6 April 2010

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Cooperl at 21:49, 6 April 2010

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Cooperl at 21:48, 6 April 2010

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−	''We also worked on the definition of whorl: ~~(now not needed)~~''	+	''We also worked on the definition of whorl:''

	'''Whorl:''' ''proposed def'n: A collective plant structure that consists of two or more		'''Whorl:''' ''proposed def'n: A collective plant structure that consists of two or more

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 from 3-23-10: Dennis and Alejandra are planning to attend IBC2011. Dennis will work on possible symposium proposals. Pankaj can be co-organizer if necessary. Need 4-6 speakers for the symposium.
 Laurel and Ramona are interested in going if funds are available.
-''DWS: Deadline for symposia has been extended to April 9th and possibly till the end of the month.  Each attendee can only present one paper.  DWS is already committed to presenting the on the 'Tree of Life Project'.  Ramona could present on monocots and Laurel on the PO.''
+''DWS: Deadline for symposia has been extended to April 9th and possibly till the end of the month.  Each attendee can only present one paper.  DWS is already committed to presenting the on the 'Tree of Life Project'.  Ramona and Laurel could present.''
 ''Ramona will look into the req'ts for the symposium proposal.''

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−	''We also discussed how to deal with whorls that have been reduced to a single organ. Decided to keep definitions of CPS and whorl as is, and place reduced structures under plant organ. We will need to remember to add link to the homologous terms under whorl. For example, if a flower only contains one carpel, we could add a term like "simple gynoecium" as a child of plant organ with a cross reference to gynoecium. DWS said this should only be an issue for reproductive parts, since there are no flowers with a single petal. What about ~~tepals~~?''	+	''We also discussed how to deal with whorls that have been reduced to a single organ. Decided to keep definitions of CPS and whorl as is, and place reduced structures under plant organ. We will need to remember to add link to the homologous terms under whorl. For example, if a flower only contains one carpel, we could add a term like "simple gynoecium" as a child of plant organ with a cross reference to gynoecium. DWS said this should only be an issue for reproductive parts, since there are no flowers with a single petal. What about sepals?''

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−	''We also worked on the definition of whorl: (now no needed''	+	''We also worked on the definition of whorl: (now not needed)''

	'''Whorl:''' ''proposed def'n: A collective plant structure that consists of two or more		'''Whorl:''' ''proposed def'n: A collective plant structure that consists of two or more

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 '''1. Complete discussion of whorls:'''
-''' whorl''' (See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982190&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorl])
+Proposed new term: '''whorl structure:''' ''proposed definition: A collective plant structure composed of one or more whorls.'' (See SF Tracker: [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982756&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorl structure]).
-Proposed def'n: A collective plant structure that consists of a ring of parts borne at the same node along an axis (LC test)
+''Children will be whorl, perianth, corolla, androecium, etc.''
-Child terms: perianth, phyllome whorl, androecium, gynoecium.
+''On the conf call, we decided that it was redundant to have the child term 'phyllome whorl' structure because all whorl structures were composed of phyllomes, so this term should be obsoleted. We can add it later if we find otherwise. This would solve the issue of not putting androecium and gynoecium as children of phyllome whorl, and covering perianth.''
-This would solve the issue of not putting androecium and gynoecium as children of phyllome whorl, and covering perianth.
+''In discussions after the webex call, PJ suggested this should be called: 'whorled plant structure' and instead of the new term 'whorl', we should keep 'phyllome whorl'''.
 '''Phyllome whorl:'''(See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2980171&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ phyllome whorl])
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 ''We discussed structures that can contain multiple whorls, like corolla or perianth, and agreed that by definition, a whorl cannot contain multiple whorls. We decided to add a structure that would encompass these and be a child of collective plant structure:''
-''We also worked on the definition of whorl:''
+''We also worked on the definition of whorl: (now no needed''
 '''Whorl:''' ''proposed def'n: A collective plant structure that consists of two or more
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-''We also discussed how to deal with whorls that have been reduced to a single organ. Decided to keep definitions of CPS and whorl as is, and place reduced structures under plant organ. We will need to remember to add link to the homologous terms under whorl. For example, if a flower only contains one carpel, we could add a term like "simple gynoecium" as a child of plant organ with a cross reference to gynoecium. DWS said this should only be an issue for reproductive parts, since there are no flowers with a single petal. What about sepals?''
+''We also discussed how to deal with whorls that have been reduced to a single organ. Decided to keep definitions of CPS and whorl as is, and place reduced structures under plant organ. We will need to remember to add link to the homologous terms under whorl. For example, if a flower only contains one carpel, we could add a term like "simple gynoecium" as a child of plant organ with a cross reference to gynoecium. DWS said this should only be an issue for reproductive parts, since there are no flowers with a single petal. What about tepals?''

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 proposed change: fruit is_a 'collective plant structure' and part_of infructescence. (CPS: a proper part of a plant and is composed of two or more organs and any associated portions of plant tissue).
-We had extensive discussion about the nature of fruit- whether or not it always was composed of two or more carpels?  Examples discussed were oranges- each segment is a carpel, pineapples- the whole inflorescence, strawberries and raspberries
+''We had extensive discussion about the nature of fruit- whether or not it always was composed of two or more carpels?  Examples discussed were oranges- each segment is a carpel, pineapples- the whole inflorescence, strawberries and raspberries- multiple carpels more or less fused together, from a single flower''
 '''*Embryo'''

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 These two terms were children of both plant organ and bract (which is_a organ).  Deleted is_a relationships to plant organ and kept under bract.
 '''* fruit''' (See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ fruit])
 Current def'n: The seed-bearing structure in angiosperms, formed from the ovary after flowering.
-MAG: fruit fits our definition of a plant organ
+Is a fruit an organ? MAG: fruit fits our definition of a plant organ (from 3-23-10).
 proposed change: fruit is_a 'collective plant structure' and part_of infructescence. (CPS: a proper part of a plant and is composed of two or more organs and any associated portions of plant tissue).
 '''*Embryo'''

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-''*International Botanical Congress (IBC2011). July 23rd-30th 2011, Melbourne, Australia.'' Important dates (http://www.ibc2011.com/Dates.htm): "Call of symposia closes" 3-31-10, Abstracts submission deadline: 12-1-10.
+'''*International Botanical Congress (IBC2011). July 23rd-30th 2011, Melbourne, Australia.''' Important dates (http://www.ibc2011.com/Dates.htm): "Call of symposia closes" 3-31-10, Abstracts submission deadline: 12-1-10.
 from 3-23-10: Dennis and Alejandra are planning to attend IBC2011. Dennis will work on possible symposium proposals. Pankaj can be co-organizer if necessary. Need 4-6 speakers for the symposium.
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-* Latin American Congress of Botany (http://www.botanica-alb.org/X_Congreso/index.php). La Serena, Chile, October 4-10; MAG: "I am not sure about due dates for this one due to the earthquake".
+'''* Latin American Congress of Botany''' (http://www.botanica-alb.org/X_Congreso/index.php). La Serena, Chile, October 4-10; MAG: "I am not sure about due dates for this one due to the earthquake".
-from 3-23-10: Dennis is attending LACB. We will consider having a presentation at this meeting. Alejandra will not be able to attend.
+''from 3-23-10: Dennis is attending LACB. We will consider having a presentation at this meeting. Alejandra will not be able to attend.''
-''* Annotation workshop/POC meeting to be held in Corvallis.'' Ramona will be in Portland June 26-29. Could have meeting one of those days (depending on when her talk is scheduled) or on June 30th. Who else can attend?
+'''* Annotation workshop/POC meeting to be held in Corvallis.''' Ramona will be in Portland June 26-29. Could have meeting one of those days (depending on when her talk is scheduled) or on June 30th. Who else can attend?
 ''Dennis is interested in also coming out, what about Barry, Chris and Alejandra?  Pankaj would like to also include Aaron Liston and Richard Halsey (OSU) and Quentin Cronk (UBC; http://cronklab.wikidot.com/quentin-cronk).''
-* Annotation workshops to be held at NYBG in fall 2010. Date TBD. Will invite outside experts, scientists, students and postdocs.
+'''* Annotation workshops to be held at NYBG in fall 2010.''' Date TBD. Will invite outside experts, scientists, students and postdocs.
 '''7. Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday April 13th at 10am.'''