POC Conf. Call 4-13-10 - Revision history

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−	b. '''Phyllome whorl:'''(See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2980171&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ ~~whorl~~ phyllome structure])	+	b. '''Phyllome whorl:'''(See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2980171&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorled phyllome structure])
	Proposed def'n: "A collective plant structure that contains phyllomes arranged around a common node."		Proposed def'n: "A collective plant structure that contains phyllomes arranged around a common node."

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-b. '''Phyllome whorl:'''(See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2980171&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ phyllome whorl])
+b. '''Phyllome whorl:'''(See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2980171&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorl phyllome structure])
 Proposed def'n: "A collective plant structure that contains phyllomes arranged around a common node."
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 Note: Whorls that have been reduced to a single organ will be  placed under 'plant organ'.

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 Proposed def'n: "A collective plant structure that contains phyllomes arranged around a common node."
-''This was renamed as 'whorled phyllome structure'. Since all of the children can contain multiple whorls, suggest changing this to:''
+''This was renamed as ''''whorled phyllome structure''''.
 ''After the meeting Lol and Ramona proposed the new def'n: 'whorled phyllome structure': A collective plant structure that contains one or more whorled arrangements of phyllomes.''
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 ''There was a discussion about cases in which petals, sepal, or tepals are arranged spirally, rather than in a whorl, as in basal dicots. This creates a problem  for dealing with terms like perianth, which is usually whorled but may be a spiral. No solution was reached.''
 (See SF Tracker [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982629&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ phyllome arrangement])
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 ''The people present concurred that if we are making a substantial rewrite of the definition, then the Dbxref should be changed to POC: curators.  The ID number shows the history of who created the term.''
+After the call, Pankaj pointed out that a substantial change in the definition would require a new ID#.
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-''Agreed that there should be some group discussion of plant cells before this meeting.''
+''Agreed that there should be some group discussion of plant cells before this meeting.Laurel and Ramona will review the Cell Ontology.''

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−	c. Proposed new term: '''tepal whorled structure:''' a whorled structure composed of two (four?) or more tepals. (See SF Tracker [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2984557&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ tepal ~~whorl(ed)~~ structure])	+	c. Proposed new term: '''tepal whorled structure:''' a whorled structure composed of two (four?) or more tepals. (See SF Tracker [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2984557&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorled tepal structure])


	''Agreed to rename the term '''whorled tepal structure'''. There was some discussion about whether or not this term should be a child of perianth.''		''Agreed to rename the term '''whorled tepal structure'''. There was some discussion about whether or not this term should be a child of perianth.''
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		+	''After the meeting Lol and Ramona proposed the new def'n: 'whorled tepal structure': A whorled phyllome structure that is composed of two or more tepals''
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 ''This was renamed as 'whorled phyllome structure'. Since all of the children can contain multiple whorls, suggest changing this to:''
-''Proposed new def'n: 'whorled phyllome structure': a whorled plant structure that contains two or more phyllomes.''
+''After the meeting Lol and Ramona proposed the new def'n: 'whorled phyllome structure': A collective plant structure that contains one or more whorled arrangements of phyllomes.''
 ''Children are androecium, calyx, corolla, epicalyx, gynoecium, leaf whorl, perianth and whorled tepal structure (new term, see below).''

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 ''Alejandra, Dennis, and Ramona felt '''strongly''' that 'androecium' and 'gynoecium' were phyllome whorls, along with the agreement of Laurel and Rex.  Laurel discussed this again with Pankaj (after the call) and he agreed that since carpel and stamen are listed as phyllomes, that it makes sense to list androecium and gynoecium as phyllome whorls.  So we all agreed to eliminate the term '''whorled plant structure''', because it was redundant with 'whorled phyllome structure'.''
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 ''Children are androecium, calyx, corolla, epicalyx, gynoecium, leaf whorl, perianth and whorled tepal structure (new term, see below).''
 Note: Whorls that have been reduced to a single organ will be  placed under 'plant organ'.
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-''Agreed to add new term '''whorled tepal structure'''. There was some discussion about whether or not this term should be a child of perianth.''
+''Agreed to rename the term '''whorled tepal structure'''. There was some discussion about whether or not this term should be a child of perianth.''
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 ''There was a discussion about cases in which petals, sepal, or tepals are arranged spirally, rather than in a whorl, as in basal dicots. This creates a problem  for dealing with terms like perianth, which is usually whorled but may be a spiral. No solution was reached.''
 (See SF Tracker [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982629&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ phyllome arrangement])

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 '''1. Complete discussion of whorls:'''
-a. '''whorled plant structure:''' proposed definition: A collective plant structure composed of one or more whorls. (See SF Tracker: [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982756&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorled plant structure]).
+a. '''whorled plant structure:''' definition: A collective plant structure composed of one or more whorls. (See SF Tracker: [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982756&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorled plant structure]).
 Note: Whorls that have been reduced to a single organ will be  placed under 'plant organ'.
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 '''1. Complete discussion of whorls:'''
-a.  Proposed new term: '''whorled plant structure:''' proposed definition: A collective plant structure composed of one or more whorls. (See SF Tracker: [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982756&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorled plant structure]).
+a. '''whorled plant structure:''' proposed definition: A collective plant structure composed of one or more whorls. (See SF Tracker: [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2982756&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ whorled plant structure]).
 Children will be phyllome whorled structure, perianth, androecium and  gynoecium.
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-''Alejandra, Dennis, and Ramona felt strongly that androecium and gynoecium were phyllome whorls. Created new term '''whorled phyllome structure''', as child of CPS. Did not work on final definition. Eliminated term '''whorled plant structure''', because it was redundant with whorled phyllome structure. Children are androecium, calyx, corolla, epicalyx, gynoecium, leaf whorl, whorled tepal structure (new term, see below).''
+''Alejandra, Dennis, and Ramona felt strongly that androecium and gynoecium were phyllome whorls. Created new term '''whorled phyllome structure''', as child of CPS. Did not work on final definition.
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-''Also worked on definition of '''tepal''': proposed definition: A phyllome that is part of a perianth in which all parts are similar in appearance.''
+''Also worked on definition of '''tepal'''(See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2972262&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ tepal])
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-''Items #2 and #3 were tabld for next week's discussion:''
+''Items #2 and #3 were tabled for next week's discussion:''
 '''2. fruit''' (See SF Tracker: [https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2972169&group_id=76834&atid=835555/ fruit])
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 '''4.  Question from Laurel and Ramona about changing the references in OE when we rewrite the definitions of the terms (eg from MaizeGDB/TAIR to POC Curators).  What is the correct protocol for doing this?'''
-''The people present concurred that if we are making a substantial rewrite of the definition, then the Dbxref should be changed to POC: curators.  The ID number shows the history of who created the term''
+''The people present concurred that if we are making a substantial rewrite of the definition, then the Dbxref should be changed to POC: curators.  The ID number shows the history of who created the term.''

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 '''4.  Question from Laurel and Ramona about changing the references in OE when we rewrite the definitions of the terms (eg from MaizeGDB/TAIR to POC Curators).  What is the correct protocol for doing this?'''
 ''The people present concurred that if we are making a substantial rewrite of the definition, then the Dbxref should be changed to POC: curators.  The ID number shows the history of who created the term''
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-''Dennis is presenting in another symposium, but is not an organizer, so can organize an ontology symposium but not present. Some discussion of who presenters should be --  maybe Pankaj, Laurel and Ramona, Barry or Chris, someone from another plant-based ontology - perhaps Rex or Rosemary.''
+''Dennis is presenting in another symposium, but is not an organizer, so can organize an ontology symposium but not present. Some discussion of who presenters should be --  maybe Pankaj, Laurel and Ramona, Barry or Chris, someone from another plant-based ontology - perhaps Rex or Rosemary.  Dennis and Ramona will work on a draft proposal for next week's meeting''